Samuel WOOLGAR (1783-1862)
Hannah STRINGER (1785-1863)
Samuel Woolgar and Hannah Stringer married
by banns on 14 October 1806 in West Grinstead, Sussex. The witnesses
to their marriage were George Sargent and Elizabeth
Goldsmith. (They were not my direct ancestors.
Samuel was the nephew of my 5x Great Grandfather,
Samuel Woolgar was baptised on 1 January 1784 in West
Grinstead. He was the son of
(c1750-?). He died aged 77 years on 3 November 1862 and was buried on 9
November 1862 in West Grinstead.
Hannah Stringer was born
about 1785 in West Grinstead.
She died aged 77 years on 5 September 1863 and was buried on 9 September 1863 in West Grinstead.
Thanks to Dave Woolgar for the photograph on the right.
It maybe of Hannah Woolgar, nee Stringer.
See further below for details about how the photograph was dated.
Samuel and Hannah were buried together in West Grinstead churchyard and a
headstone to their memory survives. The stone also commemorates their
daughter Sarah and her infant son Charles.
At the time of the 1841 census, Samuel was a 57 year old brickmaker and
Hannah was 56. They were living at Waterlow House in West Grinstead
and on census night 30 year old William Downer and 13 year
old Samuel Laker were staying with the couple.
In 1851, Samuel was a 66 year old journeyman brickmaker and living with the
family of his married daughter Sarah Carman at 13 Mary
Street in Bromley, Middlesex. Hannah was then 66 years old and the
head of her household at Brickyard in West Grinstead. With her on
census night were 2 nephews, namely, 22 year old Samuel Laker
and 15 year old Albert Woolgar (grandson rather than
nephew) who were both agricultural labourers.
At the time of the 1861 census the couple were living together in Worthing
Road, West Grinstead. Samuel was still earning his living as a
brickmaker and he was 76 years old. Hannah was then 75 years old.
The census notes that he was Samuel Woolgar senior and the
next household on the enumerators route was that of Samuel Woolgar
Samuel Woolgar and
Hannah Stringer had
2 known children:
Samuel Woolgar was baptised on 14 April 1807 in West
Grinstead. He died aged 80 years and was buried on 20 September
1887 in West Grinstead. He died aged 80 years and was buried on 20
September 1887 in West Grinstead.
Samuel married Rhoda Bristow by banns on 6 June 1835 in
Shipley. He was then from West Grinstead and they were both
single. The witnesses to their marriage were Charles Wood
and Sarah Woolgar. The banns
were published in Shipley on 17, 24 and 31 of May 1835.
Rhoda was born about 1811/2 in Shipley and was the daughter of
George Bristow and Sarah Randall. She
died aged 55 years and was buried on 12 May 1867 in West Grinstead.
When the 1841 census was recorded the couple and their son Albert and 20
year old Edward Linfield were living in Shipley.
Samule was then said to be a 30 year old labourer and Rhoda 25.
Both Samuel and Edward were agricultural labourers. The 1851
census records that Samuel was a 43 year old agricultural labouer and
Rhoda was 39. They were living at Barhill in Shipley along with
their 4 children and Rhoda's parents, 76 year old George and 75 year old
Sarah, who had both been born in Shipley. In 1861 the couple and 4
of their children were living next door to his parents in Worthing
Street, West Grinstead. Samuel was then a 54 year old agricultural
labourer and Rhoda was 49.
Samuel and Rhoda had the following children:
Albert Woolgar was baptised on 14 February 1836 in
West Grinstead, at which time his father was a labourer. He
was 5 years old in 1841 and with his parents. At the time of
the 1851 census he was a 15 year old agricultural labourer and
staying with his grandmother. In 1861 he was an unmarried 25
year old agricultural labourer living with his parents.
Albert married Emma Burns by banns on 2 March 1872
in West Grinstead. He was then a 36 year old bachelor and
brickmaker. She was a 25 year old spinster and servant.
Their fathers were named as Samuel Woolgar a
brickmaker and Edward Burns a writing clerk.
The witnesses to their marriage were Samuel Woolgar
and Mary Vinall.
Samuel Woolgar was born in Shipley and baptised on
29 January 1843 in West Grinstead. He died aged 67 years on 7
April 1910 and was buried in West Grinstead. He was 8 years old in 1851.
In 1861 he was an 18 year old agricultural labourer living at home.
Samuel married Mary.
Mary died aged 62 years
on 13 April 1910 and was buried with her husband in West Grinstead.
A headstone to their memory survives.
Emily Woolgar was born in Shipley and baptised on
14 June 1846 in West Grinstead. In 1851 she was 4 years old.
Emily married James Bowell by banns on 7 October
1869 in West Grinstead. He was then a 35 year old bachelor and
tailor from Shipley. She was a 23 year old spinster.
Their fathers were named as Peter Bowell a tailor
and Samuel Woolgar a brickmaker. The
witnesses to their marriage were Samuel Woolgar and
Edwin Woolgar was born in Shipley and baptised on
25 June 1848 in West Grinstead. In 1851 he was 2 years old.
He was 12 years old when the 1861 census was recorded.
Caroline Woolgar was born in Shipley and baptised
on 26 January 1851 in West Grinstead. At the time of the 1851
census she was 4 months old. She was 10 years old in 1861.
Sarah Woolgar was born about 1811 in West Grinstead.
She died aged 40 years on 29 October 1851 and was buried in West
Sarah married James Carman.
James was born about 1811 in Middlesex. After Sarah's death, James
married Susannah. She was born about 1817 in
When the 1851 census was recorded the couple and their 5 children and
Sarah's father were living at 13 Mary Street, Bromley. James was
then a 39 year old clerk in a distillery. Sarah was then also 39
years old. In 1861, James was a 49 year old licenced victualler
living at 25 Old Bailey in the parish of St. Sepulchre in north west
London. With him was his 44 year old wife Susannah, his 2
daughters, married brother-in-law George Long aged 26,
married sister-in-law Sarah Long aged 33 and 2
unmarried servants, namely 29 year old Hannah Bentham
who was deaf and 21 year old George Haylock.
James and Sarah had the following children:
Ellen S. Carman was born about
1839 in Bromley. She was a 12 year old scholar in 1851.
Edwin J. Carman was born about
1841 in Bromley. He was a 10 year old scholar in 1851.
Harriet Carman was born about 1843 in Bromley.
In 1851 she was an 8 year old scholar.
Amelia Carman was born about 1844/5 in Bromley.
In 1851 she was a 6 year old scholar. The 1861 census records
that she was 17 years old and the eldest of her siblings living at
Charles Carman was born on 4 July 1845. He
died aged 11 months on 4 June 1846 and was buried in West Grinstead
on 10 June 1846.
Maria F. Carman was born about
1848 in Bromley. At the time of the 1851 census she was a 3
year old scholar. In 1861 she was 13 years old.
Dave Woolgar came upon Maureen Taylor's
web site via Family Tree Magazine and emailed her seeking help in
identifying the above photograph, which maybe of Hannah Woolgar,
nee Stringer. The following was Maureen's reply and
article which appeared in the online edition of FTM. Maureen's web
site is at
Dave Woolgarís father left him a legacy of family photos. While the majority
of images are unidentified his father did help him annotate a few of them
with family relationships like this picture of an elderly woman captioned
ďgreat great grandmother born about 1820 in England.Ē That would make this
person Woolgarís 4x grandmother if the caption is correct. Itís a
troublesome photo thatís been bothering him for a couple of years.
Itís no wonder this picture is driving him crazy. If this woman was born in
1820 then her clothing should reflect the styles of the 1890s (estimating
that sheís at least 70 years of age based on the deep wrinkles around her
cheeks). Thatís not the case. Her sleeves have a slight fullness to the
upper arm, but thatís not enough evidence to conclude itís the 90s. For
other photos from the late nineteenth century read past columns
This photo has a lot more in common with a picture featured in my Family
Tree Magazine Photo Detective column (June 2005). The photo that
accompanied that article was an elderly woman posed in a ruffled cap, a full
upper sleeved dress and a fur stole. It was a portrait of Judith Simpson,
age 74, taken in 1848.
Itís clear from the clothing details that this portrait of an unidentified
woman is a lot older than Woolgar thought. Her ruffled cap, known as a day
cap, was worn indoors. The bold patterned cotton dress with a shawl collar,
woolen shawl, and full upper sleeves dates from the 1830s. Her age combined
with clothing clues makes it impossible for her to be born in 1820. Itís a
classic example of an elderly person wearing older clothing.
The photo itself is a copy of a daguerreotype, a style of photography
popular from the 1840s through c.1860 in many parts of the world including
England. For more examples of daguerreotypes see Joan L. Severaís relatively
new book, My Likeness Taken: Daguerrian Portraits in America (Kent State
University Press, $65.00). Either the copy photographer or the original
daguerreotypist took this fuzzy image. Iíd vote for the latter. This
daguerreotypist focused his camera perfectly on the fabric at knee height
subsequently blurring the rest of the image. This can happen with auto focus
cameras even today when you point at an object in the foreground and the
background blurs. The oval shape of the original daguerreotype is still
visible in the corners of this portrait. Look closely at the upper corners
of the image to see the curve.
If the woman in this photo is 70-80 years old and the image dates from c.
1843 then this woman was born in the period c. 1763-1773. Thatís a few more
generations back than Woolgarís father thought making this image a family
history treasure. With a time frame and an approximate age, now Woolgar can
try to figure out who she is.
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Dave has also received help from Marion Woolgar, who is
sceptical that the photograph is of Hannah, as the lady is wearing a ring
and Marion does not think this would suit Hannah's economic situation.
Maybe someone else also has a copy of this photograph and can positively
identify the lady, if so, please email me or