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John WHITEMAN (c1700-1765)

and Susanna DUNSTER (c1700-1776)

 

John Whiteman and Susanna Dunster were my 6x Great Grandparents.  (Click here to see their place in my pedigree chart.)  They married on 30 November 1725 in Peasmarsh, Sussex.  She was then Susanna Hills, widow.  She had previously married Charles Hills on 9 April 1724 in Biddenden, Kent.  She was then of Biddenden and he of Udimore.  John may have previously married Catherine Palmer on 4 February 1719/20 in Peasmarsh.  I have not found any children from this marriage, nor Catherine's burial before 1725.  John's condition, i.e. bachelor or widower, was not recorded in the 1725 marriage entry.

John Whiteman's date and place of birth/baptism are unknown, to me.  Might he have been a son of Edward Whiteman and Maria Chester?  They married in Peasmarsh in 1682.  John was buried on 30 March 1765 in Udimore, Sussex as John Whiteman, senior.  He left a will dated 25 February 1765 in which he mentions his wife Susanna, son-in-law Charles Hills, daughter Sarah Woodhams and sons Thomas Whiteman and John Whiteman.  (Click here to read a transcript of his will.)

Susanna Dunster's date and place of birth/baptism are unknown, to me.  She was buried on 25/29 July 1776 in Udimore.

Charles Hill's date and place of birth/baptism are unknown, to me.  He was buried on 2 August 1724 in Udimore.

On 16 May 1730, John leased School Farm for 13 years from the mayor of Rye.

 

Charles Hill and Susanna Dunster had 1 known son:

  1. Charles Hills was baptised on 7 February 1724/5 in Udimore.

 

John Whiteman and Susanna Dunster had 5 known children:

  1. John Whiteman was baptised on 4 September 1726 in Udimore and buried there on 16 October 1726.

  2. John Whiteman was baptised on 26 May 1728 in Udimore and buried there on 22 December 1728.

  3. 5 81 Thomas Whiteman, my 5x Great Grandfather, was baptised on 16 November 1729 in Udimore.  He married Sarah Fuller in 1765.  (They have their own page.)

  4. Sarah Whiteman was baptised on 27 June 1731 in Udimore.  She may have been buried on 7 February 1783 in Udimore.  She was named in her father's 1765 will as Sarah Woodhams.  She may have married John Woodhams before 1765.  No possible marriage has been found for them, or of Sarah to anyone else, in the Sussex Family History Group's marriage index, or the IGI.

 


Sacred to the memory of

John Woodhams

who died 12 Sep 1800

age (unreadable) bur

from Winchelsea

also Sarah

wife of John Woodhams

 

Monument inscription in Udimore churchyard.  Was the Sarah named on the headstone originally Sarah Whiteman?

  1. John Whiteman was baptised on 10 February 1733/4 in Udimore as John Wightman.  He died at Ripe and was buried on 17 January 1802 in Udimore.

    John married Ann Ellis on 2 November 1758 in Peasmarsh.

    Ann was buried on 25 June 1798 in Udimore.

    John and Ann had 8 known children:

    1. William Whiteman was baptised on 26 November 1758 in Udimore and buried there on 9 September 1770.

    2. Susannah Whiteman was baptised on 11 March 1762 in Udimore.

    3. Mary Whiteman was baptised on 8 July 1764 in Udimore and buried there on 21 September 1775.

    4. John Whiteman was baptised on 23 June 1766 in Udimore and buried there on 9 March 1770.

    5. Sarah Whiteman was baptised on 23 June 1766 in Udimore and buried there on 11 May 1770.

    6. Thomas Whiteman was baptised on 1 January 1769 in Udimore.  He died aged 60 years, according to the burial register, and was buried on 12 April 1827 in Winchelsea, Sussex.

      Thomas married Mary Sargent by banns on 29 January 1796 in Rye, Sussex.  He was then of Winchelsea and she a spinster of Rye.  The witnesses to the marriage were Michael Moore and Elizabeth Moore.

      Mary was baptised on 23 June 1771 in Icklesham, Sussex and was the daughter of John Seargeant and Mary Crassingham.

      Thomas and Mary had 7 known children.

    7. Sarah Whiteman was baptised on 21 March 1773 in Udimore and buried there on 22 August 1783.

    8. John Whiteman was baptised on 26 June 1777 in Udimore and buried there on 25 February 1799.

 

 

Notes

I am very grateful to a Woodhams researcher who contacted me in November 2002 and helped to resolve the muddle I was in regarding Sarah Woodhams, nee Whiteman.  I knew from her father's 1765 will that she had married a Woodhams, but who, when and where?  A John Woodhams junior had been a witness to the 1765 marriage of Sarah's brother Thomas Whiteman.  Could John have been Sarah's husband?  But I could not find a marriage nor any children of John and Sarah.  I checked the East Sussex Baptism Index (1700-1812) and the only Woodhams couple with a Sarah as the wife/mother was William and Sarah, who had 10 children baptised between 1754 and 1773 in Westham, Sussex.  However, this Sarah Woodhams died aged 55 years and was buried on 5 March 1781 in Westham, making her birth about 1726.  So I doubted that I had made the right connection.  Incidentally, William Woodhams was baptised on 13 March 1730 in Westham and was the son of Mr. Walter Woodhams and Elizabeth Batchelor who had married on 24 June 1726 in Willingdon, Sussex.

I then found that William Woodhams had married Sarah Sloman on 22 July 1752 in Battle, Sussex.  Of their 10 children, a daughter Elizabeth Woodhams born 3 June and baptised 25 June 1764 in Westham, married a John Whiteman on 1 October 1792 in Westham.  I have yet to work out if this John Whiteman was connected in any way to my Whiteman ancestors.

 

 

From A2A:

FILE - Settlement examination of Thomas Bromley - ref.  PAR511/32/4/43  - date: 29 Dec 1772
         hit[from Scope and Contenthe is twenty six years old and was born in Horsmonden, Kent, where his father lived but he does not know if he was settled there; from his birth to the age of seventeen he worked at the husbandry business without ever serving a yearly service; was then drafted into the West Kent Militia and served in Captain Austen's company, where Sir Robert Fairfax was Colonel, for six years; was then discharged and came to Udimore; at Easter 1771 hired himself to John Whiteman of Udimore for as long as he and his master should agree and served him a year and a half

FILE - Settlement examination of Thomas Bromley - ref.  PAR511/32/4/82  - date: 28 Aug 1777
         hit[from Scope and Contentborn in Horsmonden, Kent, where his father, John Bromley, was settled; was married at Winchelsea to Mary Wimble by whom he has three children: Stephen, 4; Mary, 2; and Thomas, nine months; his wife and children live with him in Winchelsea. Note on reverse: Thomas Bromley, son of John and Francis Bromley, aged above thirty years; born at Horsmonden, Kent, where his father is a parishioner; lived with Woodhams in Udimore above a year; agreed with John Whiteman for a year; lived the year and until Midsummer afterwards then run away; was gone until Lady Day then returned to JW's; stayed until Winchelsea Fair then run away; lived with him three times
 

FILE - Settlement examination of Thomas Bromley - ref.  PAR511/32/4/87  - date: 26 Jan 1778
         hit[from Scope and Contenthe was born in Horsmonden, Kent, where his father John Bromley is settled; his mother's Christian name was Frances and from his birth to the age of seventeen he lived at Horsmonden and worked as a labourer without ever hiring himself as a yearly servant; aged seventeen he was drawn for the West Kent Militia and served six years after which he came to Udimore and lived with John Woodhams the elder, farmer, as a weekly servant for a year; after he left JW he went and lived with John Whiteman of Udimore, farmer, who he hired himself to for one year which he served and stayed with JW till next Midsummer and then ran away; Lady Day following he returned to the service of JW for three months and then ran away again; he has lived with JW at three different times; he does not recollect the precise time he went to live with JW but it might have been Ladytide seven or eight years ago; five years ago he was married at Winchelsea to Mary Wimble, spinster, by whom he has three children: Stephen, 4; Mary, 3; and Thomas, 1; his wife and children now live with him in Winchelsea
 

DUNSTER          WHITEMAN

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