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William LIDBETTER (1803-1878)

and Charlotte MILLS (1806-1883)

 

St. Mary's, Pulborough, 1906 - from http://www.westsussexpast.org.uk/pictures/index.htmlWilliam Libbeter and Charlotte Mills married by banns on 31 January 1827 at the parish church of St. Mary's in Pulborough, Sussex.  They were both then of Pulborough.  The witnesses to their marriage were Sarah Mills and William Wedge.  (They were not my direct ancestors, but Charlotte was the sister of my 3x great grandmother, Sarah Mills, who married William Wedge in 1833.)

William Lidbetter was baptised on 4 September 1803 in Pulborough.  He was the son of John Lidbetter (1771-1848) and Maria Wady (1777-1819).  His death was registered in the fourth quarter of 1878 in the Thakeham registration district as 77 year old William Lidbetter.  (William Lidbetter's nephew, Charles Lidbetter married William Wedge's niece, Jane Brockhurst.)

Charlotte Mills was baptised on 2 February 1806 in Pulborough.  She was the daughter of James Mills (1779-1862) and Charlotte Brooks (1780-1862).  Her death was registered in the second quarter of 1883 in the Thakeham registration district as 80 year old Charlotte Lidbetter.

A removal order was issued on 28 November 1829 by Houghton parish overseers to return William, Charlotte and their 2 young daughters to Pulborough.

When the 1841 census was recorded the family were living at Barn House in Pulborough, either next door or in the same property as the family of Thomas Standen and his wife Charlotte Willard.  William was then an agricultural labourer.  Also with the family on census night were Charles Libeter and William Wady.

In 1851, the family were living in Pulborough and William was an agricultural labourer.

In 1861 they were living in Mare Hill Lane in Pulborough and William was still an agricultural labourer and Charlotte a charwoman.  Also staying with them was their 3 year old grandson, Henry William Lidbetter.

By 1871 the family were living in Lower Street and William was described as an imbecile who was an agricultural labourer in receipt of parish relief.  Also in 1871 they had a lodger living with them, unmarried 36 year old labourer, Frederick Greenfield and 4 visitors, namely:  Charlotte Prince a married 35 year old; Hester Botting a married 37 year old; 4 year old William J. Botting; and 3 year old Jane Prince.

Charlotte was a widow by the time of the 1881 census and she was living with the family of her daughter Sarah.

 

William Lidbetter and Charlotte Mills had 11 known children:

  1. Sarah Libbeter was baptised on 17 June 1827 in Pulborough.  She was 2 years old when the removal order was issued to her parents.

    Sarah married George Wase by banns on 20 September 1849 in Pulborough.  He was then a 26 year old bachelor and labourer and she a 22 year old spinster.  The witnesses to their marriage were Charles Lidbetter and Mary Lidbetter.

    George was baptised on 11 January 1824 in Pulborough and he was the son of James Wase and Sarah Boxall.

    When the 1881 census was recorded the couple were living at Pidgeons Gate in Pulborough.  Their 6 year old granddaughter, Louisa Ellen Still, was also staying with them in 1881.  They had the following known children:

    1. Mary Wase was baptised on 25 April 1852 in Pulborough.

    2. Ellen Wase was baptised on 12 November 1854 in Pulborough.

    3. George William Wase was baptised on 27 April 1862 in Pulborough.

    4. Emily Wase was baptised on 4 April 1862 in Pulborough.  She was 19 at the time of the 1881 census.

    5. John James Wase was baptised on 23 September 1866 in Pulborough.  In 1881 he was a 14 year old stable helper and he was living at home.

  2. Caroline Lidbetter was born about 1828 in Houghton.  She died aged 74 years and her death was registered in the second quarter of 1903 in the Horsham registration district.  She was a year old when the removal order was issued to her parents.  When the 1841 census was recorded she was 12 years old.

    Caroline Libbeter married Frederick Lulham by banns on 18 October 1851 in Pulborough.  He was then said to be a 34 year old bachelor and shepherd from Bury, Sussex.  She was a 23 year old spinster.  The witnesses to their marriage were Charlotte Pannell and William Libbeter.

    Frederick was baptised on 31 October 1824 in Botolphs, Sussex and was the son of John Lulham and Leah Edwards.  They had married on 11 June 1822 in Botolphs.  Frederick's father was a shepherd.  His death may have been registered in the first quarter of 1915 in the Brighton registration district.  When the 1841 census was recorded he was a 15 year old agricultural labourer living at home with his parents and siblings at Annington in Botolphs.

    At the time of the 1861 census the family were living in Edburton village and Frederick was a 36 year shepherd who gave his place of birth as Botolphs, Sussex.  In 1871 the family were living in Bramber.  When the 1881 census was recorded the couple were living at Thatched Barn in Lower Beeding and Frederick was a 55 year old shepherd.  In 1901 the couple were lodging in the home of 84 year old James Deadman in Nuthurst Street, Nuthurst.

    Frederick and Caroline had the following children:

    1. Alfred Lulham was born about 1852 in Bury.  He was a 9 year old scholar in 1861.  In 1871 he was an 18 year old agricultural labourer living at home.

    2. James Edward Lulham was baptised on 1 October 1854 in Upper Beeding, Sussex.  He was a 7 year old scholar in 1861.  In 1871 he was a 16 year old agricultural labourer/shepherd.

      James married Jane Scutt on 15 June 1878 at the parish church in Hove, Sussex.  He was then bachelor and bricklayer, whilst she was a widow.  They were both of full age and resided in Hove.  Their father's were named as Frederick Lulham a shepherd and Richard Burns, deceased, who had been a postman.  The witnesses to their marriage were James Linton ? and Leah Lulham.

      As Jane Burns she had previously married Frederick Scutt on 30 April 1871 in Hove.  He died aged 33 years in 1877 in the Steyning registration district.  He was born about 1844 in Bignor, Sussex and was the son of Charles Scutt (1812-1887) and Charlotte Carter (c1815-1863).

      Jane was born in 1851 in Arundel and was the eldest daughter and child of Richard Burns (c1830-?) and Jane Henshaw (c1830-?).  When the 1851 census was recorded she was 2 months old and living with her parents in King Street, Arundel. Her father was then a labourer.

      When the 1881 census was recorded James and Jane were living at 3 Belgrave Square in Portslade, Sussex, along with their 1 month old son Frederick E. Lulham and 16 year old servant Sarah J. Owens.  James was then a labourer and gave his place of birth as Edburton, Sussex.  In 1901 the family were living at 8 Middle Street, Portslade and James was a general labourer.

      James and Jane had the following children:

      1. Frederick E. Lulham was born in 1881 in Portslade.

      2. John Richard Lulham was born in the third quarter of 1883 in Fishersgate.  He was 19 year old agricultural labourer in 1901.

      3. Caroline Margaret Lulham was born in the second quarter of 1885 in Portslade.  She was a 17 year old domestic servant in 1901.

      4. James Alfred Lulham was born on 2 January 1887 at 3 Albion Terrace, Portslade.  His father was then a gas works labourer and his birth was registered by his mother on 4 February 1887.  When the 1901 census was recorded he was a 15 year old labourer's boy working in the port.

        James married Catherine Ada Lallyett on 25 January 1908 at the Register Office in the district of Steyning, Sussex.  He was then a bachelor and general labourer and she was a spinster and domestic servant.  They were both aged 21 years and both of 88 Ellen Street.  Their fathers were named as James Edward Lulham and Charles Lallyett who were both general labourers.  The witnesses to their marriage were Elizabeth Salter and Joseph Lallyett.

      5. Beatrice Violet Lulham was born in the first quarter 1889 in Portslade.  She was 12 years old in 1901.

    3. Eliza Lulham was born about 1856 in Beeding or Edburton.  She was 5 years old when the 1861 census was recorded and in 1871 she was a 15 year old unemployed domestic servant.  Eliza married William Todman in the fourth quarter of 1878 in the Steyning registration district.  William and Eliza were the parents of:

      1. Eliza Todman married Arthur Shimmield in the fourth quarter of 1903 in the Horsham registration district.  Arthur was born in the fourth quarter of 1874 in Nuthurst and he was the son of William Henry Shimmield (1840-1887) and Eliza Williams (c1837-?) who had married in the first quarter of 1864 in the Brighton registration district.  After William's death, Eliza married Mark Greenfield in the fourth quarter of 1890 in the Horsham regisration district.

        Their son remembered bringing Frederick senior home from the pub on his 90th birthday in about 1914.

    4. Leah Lulham was born about 1858 in Beeding.  She was 3 years old in 1861.

    5. William Lulham was born about 1867 in Bramber.  In 1871 he was a 4 year old scholar.  He was a 14 year old agricultural labourer in 1881.  William married Alice Shimmield.

    6. Amy Lulham was born about 1870 in Bramber.  She was a year old in 1871.

  3. William Libbeter was baptised on 24 July 1831 in Pulborough.  In 1841 he was 9 years old.

  4. Edmund Libbeter was baptised on 5 May 1833 in Pulborough.  He was 7 years old in 1841.

  5. John Libbeter was baptised on 15 February and 22 March 1835 in Pulborough.  In 1841 he was 6 years old.  He was an agricultural labourer when the 1851 census was recorded and the eldest of his siblings living at home.

  6. Mary Jane Libbeter was baptised on 26 February 1837 in Pulborough.  In 1841 she was 4 years old.

    Mary married George Hills by banns on 10 May 1862 in Pulborough.  He was a 30 year old bachelor and labourer, and she a 27 year old spinster.  The witnesses to the marriage were James Colebrook and Thomas Hills.  George was the son of Thomas Hills.

  7. Esther Libbeter was baptised on 5 May 1839 in Pulborough.  When the 1841 census was recorded she was 2 years old.  She was an 11 year old scholar in 1851, and 22 years old at the time of the 1861 census and the only one of her siblings living in the parental home.

    Esther married Henry Botting on 21 May 1865 at St. Nicholas in Brighton, Sussex.

  8. Charlotte Libbeter was baptised on 25 July 1841 in Pulborough.  She was a 9 year old scholar in 1851.

    Charlotte had an illegitimate son:

    1. Henry William Lidbeter was baptised on 18 July 1858 in Pulborough.  He was a 13 year old labourer in 1871 and living with his maternal grandparents

    Charlotte married Thomas Benjamin Prince by banns on10 March 1863 in Pulborough.  He was then a 24 year old bachelor and labourer and she was a 23 year old spinster.  The witnesses were William Prince and Jesse Greenfield.  Thomas was the son of James Prince, a labourer.

  9. Eliza Libbeter was baptised on 22 October 1843 in Pulborough.  She was a 7 year old scholar in 1851.

  10. James Libbeter was baptised on 29 June 1845 in Pulborough.

  11. Susan Lidbetter was baptised on 21 March 1847 in Pulborough.  She was 4 years old in 1851.  In 1871 she was an unmarried 24 living at home with her parents.

    Susan married Frederick Greenfield by banns on 16 September 1871 in Pulborough.  He was a 37 year old bachelor and labourer and she a 24 year old spinster.  The witnesses to the marriage were Jesse Greenfield and Ann Balchin.

    Frederick was baptised on 4 May 1832 in Pulborough and was the son of John Greenfield and Sarah Ruff.

    The 1881 census records that 47 year old Frederick Wingfield and his wife Susan were living at 4 Armoury Street in Portsmouth and he was then a general labourer.

    Frederick and Susan had the following children:

    1. Percy Greenfield was baptised on 21 April 1872 in Pulborough.

    2. Edward Greenfield was baptised on 28 December 1874 in Pulborough.  His name was recorded as Edmund Wingfield in the 1881 census and he was a 7 year old scholar.

    3. Sarah Ann Greenfield was baptised on 5 December 1875 in Pulborough.  She died aged 1 years in Mare Hill and was buried on 21 August 1876 in Pulborough.

    4. Charlotte Greenfield was born in 1880 in Portsmouth.  She was 9 months old in 1881 and her name was recorded as Charlotte Wingfield in the 1881 census.

 

 

1841 census - Barn House, Pulborough, Sussex (HO107/1092, folio 37, page 20)

William Lebeter, 37, Ag Lab, born in Sussex

Charlott Lebeter, 35, born in Sussex

Carroline Lebeter, 12, born in Sussex

William Lebeter, 9, born in Sussex

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Edmond Libeter, 7, born in Sussex

John Libeter, 6, born in Sussex

Mary Libeter, 4, born in Sussex

Ester Libeter, 2, born in Sussex

Charles Libeter, 35, Ag Lab, born in Sussex

William Wady, 17, Ag Lab, born in Sussex

 

1841 census - Annington, Buttolphs, Sussex (HO107/1098, folio 3, page 1)

John Lulham, 40, Ag Lab, born in Sussex

Leah Lulham, 45, born in Sussex

Jesse Lulham, 15, Ag Lab, born in Sussex

Frederick Lulham, 15, Ag Lab, born in Sussex

Mary Lulham, 13, born in Sussex

Fanny Lulham, 11, born in Sussex

 

1851 census - King Street, Arundel, Sussex (HO107/1651, folio 589, page 9)

Richard Burns, Head, Mar, 21, Labourer, born Sussex, Arundel

Jane Burns, Wife, Mar, 21, born Sussex, Arundel

Jane Burns, Daur, 2 mo, born Sussex, Arundel

Charles Parker, Lodger, Widr, 72, Pauper Butcher, born Sussex, Arundel

(Richard Burns and Jane Henshaw married on 9 June 1850 in Aurndel.)

 

1851 census - Wiggonholt, Sussex (Ho107/1651, folio 677, page 3)

John Lulham, Head, Mar, 51, Shepherd, born Sussex, Falmer

Leah Lulham, Wife, Mar, 58, born Sussex, Slinfold

 

 

1881 census - 3 Belgrave Square, Portslade, Sussex (RG11/1103, folio 75, page 73)

James E. Lulham, Head, Mar, 26, Labourer, born Sussex, Edburton

Jane Lulham, Wife, Mar, 31, born Sussex, Arundel

Frederick E. Lulham, Son, 1 mo, born Sussex, Portslade

Sarah J. Owens, Servant, Unm, 16, Servant Domestic, born Kent, Tunbridge

 

1901 census - 8 Middle Street, Portslade, Sussex (RG13/943, folio 66, page 40)

James E. Lulham, Head, M, 47, Gen labourer, born Todenton Sands [should this be Tottington?]

Jane Lulham, Wife, M, 52, born Arundel

John R. Lulham, Son, S, 19, Gen labourer, born Fishersgate

Caroline M. Lulham, Daur, S, 17, Servant Dom, born Portslade

James A. Lulham, Son, S, 15, Labourer's boy Port, born Portslade

Beatrice P. Lulham, Daur, S, 12, born Portslade

Alfred Moore, Boarder, M, 49, Gas messenger Port, born Rye

 

Many thanks to Neil Shimmield and Alan Taylor for additions to this page.

LIDBETTER          MILLS

This page was updated on 18 October 2012